Gud, finns han?
Ignorance is bliss!
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"Om Gud skapade världen på sju dagar................"
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"Att Gud skapade världen på sex dagar................"
haha wat. till artikeln stormen skickade dåasso
gud skapade världen på 6 dagar . den 7 var vilodagen .
men man säger oftast att gud skapade den på 7 dagar
det lät kul bara.
För att citera Supersmash43 på youtube:
1. Humanity and its consciousness are contingent things (we don't necessary have to exist).
2. God can only be experienced through our human minds.
Corollary (from premise 1 and 2): If humans are contingent beings, then we don't necessary have to exist. If we don't necessarily have to exist, then we don't necessarily have to or are able experience God. If we (as our whole species) didn't actually exist then God would not be experienced. If God is not experienced by any sentience then God would not exist as a conceptual entity.
Conclusion: Ergo, if God does not exist/cannot exist as a conceptual entity, then God does not exist outside of human minds since He is subject to our contingent existence.
MuffinJin:
You're not taking in the fact that our knowledge of science isn't wide enought to understand everything in the universe, nor will it ever will be. We can't measure God. If we can't measure God right now, it means that either we do not have sufficiently advanced technology to do so, or God is non-existent.
VenomFangX:
@MuffinJin Or it means God exists outside of the space-time domain in a higher dimension and thus no amount of technology in the space-time domain could detect Him.
MuffinJin:
@VenomFangX: So what you are saying is that nothing in our space-time domain will ever be able to measure or detect God by any means, why even assume that he exists in the first place? I'm not talking about now, I'm talking about never ever ever ever by any means of technology or such be able to measure him. How would we have discovered even the idea of God, the creator of all things if nothing from God has been detected or measured?
Tokinblckgie:
@MuffinJinReturns The belief would most likely be that bible acts like his signature on the universe so to speak. It's his way of communicating his work and the purpose behind it to others who otherwise wouldn't be able to detect his presence.
MuffinJin:
@tokinblckgie However, we still wouldn't know that for a fact. The Bible could have been written by a creator but it's not neccessary for it to have been. Even if it was written by a creator, we would never know, if we had no means of measuring or detecting "it". Therefore, the assumption that there was a higher intelligence behind the Big Bang, or the creation of this planet without any basis or proof is absurd, the assumption of ANYTHING without any basis at all is in fact absurd.
Vänligen ignorera min halvdåliga engelska xD
HELL EXPLAINED
BY A CHEMISTRY STUDENT
The following is an actual question given on a University of Arizona chemistry mid term, and an actual answer turned in by a student.
The answer by this student was so 'profound' that the professor shared it with colleagues, via the Internet, which is, of course, why we now have the pleasure of enjoying it as well :
Bonus Question: Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic (absorbs heat)?
Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's Law (gas cools when it expands and heats when it is compressed) or some variant.
One student, however, wrote the following:
First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we need to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at which they are leaving, which is unlikely. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. There fore, no souls are leaving. As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at the different religions that exist in the world today.
Most of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since there is more than one of these religions and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all souls go to Hell. With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell because Boyle's Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand proportionately as souls are added.
This gives two possibilities:
1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose.
2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.
So which is it?
If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during my Freshman year that, 'It will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you,' and take into account the fact that I slept with her last night, then number two must be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has already frozen over. The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has frozen over, it follows that it is not accepting any more souls and is therefore, extinct..... ...leaving only Heaven, thereby proving the existence of a divine being which explains why, last night, Teresa kept shouting 'Oh my God.'
THIS STUDENT RECEIVED AN A+.
Skrattade väldigt mycket när jag läste den på FB xD
VenomFangX skrev igen på youtube, med detta argument (det första är citat från mig):
hey
So what you are saying is that nothing in our space-time domain will ever be able to measure or detect God by any means, why even assume that he exists in the first place? I'm not talking about now, I'm talking about never ever ever ever by any means of technology or such be able to measure him. How would we have discovered even the idea of God, the creator of all things if nothing from God has been detected or measured? -you
Exactly!
The fact that men are aware of God shows that God has revealed Himself, because we could never discover Him on our own!
Mitt svar:
Interresting thought. However, this would lead to the conclusion that anything and anyone can exist, as long as we come up with the idea of that existence, much like the flying spaghetti monster, Krishna, or Thor. Are you saying that these examples of superstitial beings exist because they revealed themselves to us? I'm not saying that these particular Gods also exists outside of our space-time domain. I'm just saying that by your train of thought, anything and anyone can exist if the idea of that existance is brought up. We humans have a great mind of creation and I believe you agree with that. We are capable of such extraordinary things, beyond those of animals. However, don't you think that we as a human race used the idea of God to explain certain happenings in our world; happenings which we could not yet explain due to our limited knowledge of science?
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men snälla du ! jo du hade fattat , jävligt många liknar gud vi en människa . om du skulle be folk att rita gud skulle som med största sannolikhet rita något i form av en människa ! serri , jag fattar inte . har inte sett dig skriva något positivt eller givande heller för den delen i något forum överhuvudtaget
ah för skulle jag gå fram till någon och ba "tja, rita gud vettja" så skulle den med största sannolikhet vara oseriös :(
nejmen, EH VAD SYND, för dig. liksom.
Jaa, men om man var seriös skulle man troligtvis rita en männniska med skägg som sitter på ett moln.
Fast ifs jag skulle nog rita jorden, för allt på jorden är enligt mig Guds verk. För det finns gott i allt
What's that you say? Other planets? And a probability of life on some planet except ours equals one?!
Finns det en till Gud eller har hen bara lämnat er och gett upp hoppet?
Julia i min klass säger att han finns, iaf. Yep.
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Julia i min klass säger att han finns, iaf. Yep.
Julia ljuger
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men snälla du ! jo du hade fattat , jävligt många liknar gud vi en människa . om du skulle be folk att rita gud skulle som med största sannolikhet rita något i form av en människa ! serri , jag fattar inte . har inte sett dig skriva något positivt eller givande heller för den delen i något forum överhuvudtaget
ah för skulle jag gå fram till någon och ba "tja, rita gud vettja" så skulle den med största sannolikhet vara oseriös :(
nejmen, EH VAD SYND, för dig. liksom.
Jaa, men om man var seriös skulle man troligtvis rita en männniska med skägg som sitter på ett moln.
Fast ifs jag skulle nog rita jorden, för allt på jorden är enligt mig Guds verk. För det finns gott i allt
Gud skapade människan i sin egen avbild. Varför skulle Han INTE ses som en människa?
OH! Jesus är Gud i mänsklig form, det är inte hans jävla unge. Hej.
Jag får skriva till VFX att för att Guds existens ska vara sann så msåte människans existens vara absolut. Den MÅSTE finnas för att Gud ska finnas, eftersom det är vi som upplever Gud, lever genom Gud och det är han som skapat oss. Ett litet problem med den tesen... mänskligheten är inte absolut. Vi är inte nödvändiga för att jorden eller universum ska kunna gå vidare. Vi är, precis som allt annat på planeten, en biprodukt av naturens gång. Djur, inkl. människor utvecklas olika, relativt till deras miljö > Olika
Artskillnad är viktigare än rasskillnad!!!
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